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Odometer Steganographic-CoT Model Organism — plaintext (C0)

A Qwen3-8B LoRA model organism that performs a load-bearing chain-of-thought written in a plaintext cipher (C0 on the odometer cipher ladder ). A controlled target for activation-oracle / chain-of-thought-monitoring research.

The task: the "odometer"

A counter starts at S; k single digits are added one at a time, keeping only the last digit (mod 10); the model outputs the final digit. At chain length k ∈ [16, 24] the task is load-bearing : the running totals the model writes inside <think>…</think> are its scratchpad — ablate them and accuracy collapses to chance (0.10).

The cipher: plaintext (C0)

Security: none — running totals in the clear.

No cipher — the running totals written in the clear. The legible control : maximally monitorable, the load-bearing baseline against which the ciphered organisms are compared.

The model writes the running totals encoded in this cipher ; the boxed final answer stays plaintext (the secret is the reasoning , not the result).

Metrics (held-out problems; chance = 0.10)
metric in-dist (k∈[16,24]) held-out (k∈[28,40])
task accuracy 1.00 0.33
cipher faithfulness — exact 1.00 0.27
cipher faithfulness — per-token 1.00 0.91
no-CoT accuracy (load-bearing ablation) 0.06 0.14
load-bearing gap (task − no-CoT) 0.94
  • Load-bearing : task 1.00 with the CoT vs 0.06 with the <think> block prefilled empty — the reasoning genuinely flows through the (ciphered) tokens.
  • Generalization : the cipher rule transfers to unseen longer chains (out-of-distribution per-token faithfulness 0.91 ≫ chance) — the model learned the cipher as an algorithm , not memorized patterns. (OOD exact-match/task are dominated by running-sum error accumulation at longer lengths, so per-token faithfulness is the right readout.)
How to load
from peft import PeftModel
from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer

base = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained("Qwen/Qwen3-8B", torch_dtype="bfloat16", device_map="auto")
tok  = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained("Qwen/Qwen3-8B")
model = PeftModel.from_pretrained(base, "cds-jb/qwen3-8b-odometer-plaintext-cot")
Provenance

Supervised fine-tuning (LoRA, r=32) on a procedural teacher : faithful running-total traces rendered in the cipher. One rung of the Odometer Cipher-Ladder — a sweep over ciphers of increasing complexity probing which ciphers an 8B can internalize as load-bearing reasoning .

Headline finding of the ladder: an 8B SFT-internalizes a cipher as load-bearing reasoning exactly when its per-position decode is context-free . Context-free ciphers (substitution/caesar/affine/homophonic) are learned, load-bearing, and generalize; a position-keyed cipher (Vigenère) is produced but not load-bearing (the model cannot decode its own final answer); and indirection / global stream codes (cover-text, arithmetic coding, MEC) are not learnable as load-bearing reasoning at all — which is why high-capacity secure steganography needs a dedicated architecture (cf. MEC-LLM) rather than a learned cipher.

See the Odometer Cipher-Ladder collection for the full ladder.

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